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Post by Matt on Oct 14, 2016 14:38:24 GMT
Just got back from the consultation, thought it would be good to start a separate thread to share what everyone has learned. I'll try and keep mine concise, hence the bullet points. Overall I was suitably impressed. They said to use Fox House as an example of what it might look like. - They tried to get it moving earlier but couldn't get enough traction. They then brought in Dransfield who seem to be getting things moving now.
- They want it to have that industrial feel to keep with the traditions of the mining heritage, so high ceilings with tall windows.
- No flat pack buildings, all brick built.
- There will be the expected amenities - medical centre, pharmacy and small shops.
- There will be a supermarket - they are talking to the big 4/5 about this.
- A 66 room hotel, although this will mainly be used by AMRC for people travelling to do training etc.
- There will be a gym/ leisure facilities
- There will NOT be any kind of take away or fast food outlet. It will mainly be coffee shops/ sandwich shops with reasonable opening hours.
- Looking at 2 to 3 restaurants, one possibly in the hotel but independent from it.
- Parking provision will be around 406 spaces. There will be an additional 64 spaces around the back of the buildings for staff working in the centre.
- There will be security, which will include CCTV, number plate recognition and time limited parking.
- The centre will be gated off of an evening, so we won't get boy racers in there late at night.
- The latest anything will be open will be 11pm and this will just be the restaurants who will have the usual licenses.
- Access will be via Mitchell Way, just opposite the entrance into the Winter Green. I asked about entry next to the Training Centre but they said that wouldn't be possible due to the banking angle. (They'd basically need to weave across and back which would take up too much space.
- There are plans for a bus depot which is accessed down Stephenson Way and left as though you'd go into the AMRC. (I stated this as the main concern on the feedback form)
- Planning permission is going in end of November, with a view to start work end of next year.
- Drainage is already in place so there's no ground works to be done.
- No retailer has officially signed up yet, but they are hoping to have around 40% capacity by the time building starts. They are talking to independent retailers as well as chains.
- The childrens park will be moving down near the school on the corner of Lescar Road.
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Post by Rich on Oct 14, 2016 15:02:50 GMT
That's a great summary Matt. I can't get tonight so thanks.
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Post by alison on Oct 14, 2016 15:55:49 GMT
Pretty much sums it up Matt. There will be an automatic number plate recognition system in place and a maximum 3 hour parking so won't be able to be used by staff from the university building.
I have a small concern that when the road to handsworth opens up from catcliffe that it will increase the traffic flow through the estate to get to the centre. Other than that, if it's anything like the centre at Fox Valley, it will be lovely.
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Post by martsa on Oct 14, 2016 16:04:05 GMT
It looks good and if it's anything like Fox Valley, it will be done with a tasteful touch. No flatpacks in sight, which is welcomed.
My only concerns are:
Traffic issues on Mitchell Way. Will the road be remodelled to accommodate all that extra traffic.
Will the precinct have security personnel on site to stop gangs of youths hanging out/boyracers from congregating.
Look forward to getting feedback.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2016 18:28:59 GMT
Cheers Matt, couldn't get up myself. Any plans for a post office up there?
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Post by reilwell on Oct 14, 2016 18:37:01 GMT
Overall the plans look good. It's of a higher quality than I was expecting and the architect I spoke with basically said they taken the lessons learned at fox valley and put them into practice here. I really can't say I saw anything that I didn't want/like. My only concern was that they'd called part of it waverley walk which no one from Harworth seams to have picked up on although the architect did asure me the name would be changed so not to cause confusion with our road.
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Post by reilwell on Oct 14, 2016 18:39:13 GMT
Cheers Matt, couldn't get up myself. Any plans for a post office up there? No plans were meantioned and can't really see one happening unless it's inside the supermarket. |
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Post by sifu on Oct 14, 2016 19:39:51 GMT
Mixed opinions about the bus station. Whilst I agree it would be needed and provide a safe shelter for commuters, there needs to be consideration regarding access, safety and noise pollution, particularly when the school is built. Lescar Road is going to get busy with pedestrians. It would benefit from road widening and traffic calming measures to compensate.
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Post by theminx on Oct 14, 2016 19:45:54 GMT
Did anyone else notice that the bit round the lake is now just going to be houses? Disappointed with that as it would have been nice to have something akin to Rother Valley down there in my humble opinion.
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Post by sifu on Oct 14, 2016 21:13:20 GMT
Did anyone else notice that the bit round the lake is now just going to be houses? Disappointed with that as it would have been nice to have something akin to Rother Valley down there in my humble opinion. Doesn't that depend on the proposed route for HS2? |
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Post by chris1983 on Oct 14, 2016 21:28:22 GMT
Everything looked good from our prospective.
I just hope they stick to the vision portrayed this evening.
No KFC was a disappointment though ;-)
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Post by martin on Oct 14, 2016 21:36:20 GMT
Waverley Walk is apparently the 'spine of the Estate'. Running from AMRC through to the retail area, through to proper Waverley Walk and beyond.
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Post by bish on Oct 14, 2016 22:50:46 GMT
Just got back from the consultation, thought it would be good to start a separate thread to share what everyone has learned. I'll try and keep mine concise, hence the bullet points. Overall I was suitably impressed. They said to use Fox House as an example of what it might look like. - They tried to get it moving earlier but couldn't get enough traction. They then brought in Dransfield who seem to be getting things moving now.
- They want it to have that industrial feel to keep with the traditions of the mining heritage, so high ceilings with tall windows.
- No flat pack buildings, all brick built.
- There will be the expected amenities - medical centre, pharmacy and small shops.
- There will be a supermarket - they are talking to the big 4/5 about this.
- A 66 room hotel, although this will mainly be used by AMRC for people travelling to do training etc.
- There will be a gym/ leisure facilities
- There will NOT be any kind of take away or fast food outlet. It will mainly be coffee shops/ sandwich shops with reasonable opening hours.
- Looking at 2 to 3 restaurants, one possibly in the hotel but independent from it.
- Parking provision will be around 406 spaces. There will be an additional 64 spaces around the back of the buildings for staff working in the centre.
- There will be security, which will include CCTV, number plate recognition and time limited parking.
- The centre will be gated off of an evening, so we won't get boy racers in there late at night.
- The latest anything will be open will be 11pm and this will just be the restaurants who will have the usual licenses.
- Access will be via Mitchell Way, just opposite the entrance into the Winter Green. I asked about entry next to the Training Centre but they said that wouldn't be possible due to the banking angle. (They'd basically need to weave across and back which would take up too much space.
- There are plans for a bus depot which is accessed down Stephenson Way and left as though you'd go into the AMRC. (I stated this as the main concern on the feedback form)
- Planning permission is going in end of November, with a view to start work end of next year.
- Drainage is already in place so there's no ground works to be done.
- No retailer has officially signed up yet, but they are hoping to have around 40% capacity by the time building starts. They are talking to independent retailers as well as chains.
- The childrens park will be moving down near the school on the corner of Lescar Road.
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Post by winterfell on Oct 15, 2016 6:56:14 GMT
I couldn't make it but think it looks really good other than the Stephenson Way access. Three other sides to the square don't impact on residents and yet the service road and bus depot have to be down here. Just because there are only a handful of houses does not mean that it doesn't matter what they do to us! Thanks Matt for taking and sharing the photos. Very helpful. Anyone want to co-op a coffee shop with me  |
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Post by reilwell on Oct 15, 2016 8:22:27 GMT
Waverley Walk is apparently the 'spine of the Estate'. Running from AMRC through to the retail area, through to proper Waverley Walk and beyond. That's not what they told us. It was on some of the early masterplans but on the these plans there's no way they could link the two up without creating a load of confusion. |
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