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Post by Luke on Apr 26, 2016 19:06:11 GMT
I see some of the houses are side on to the current path that runs down the barratts homes. Does that mean there will be a large six foot wall or fence running along the line of the path. If so that may affect the current open plan feel of the area? I don't think do Rich. It looks to me like it almost mirrors what they did on Barrats side with some landscaping between the path and the tarmac access to the drives off the main road |
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Post by Luke on Apr 26, 2016 19:08:42 GMT
Linds, are you overlooking the public footpath onto the proposed development. I can see 5 homes marked as BA which I'm guessing are Bamburgh type with AFF on the key? There is also a red cross that is supposed to denote affordable but i cant see any of those. on there. Luke Yeah we are, and those are the 5 homes I'm talking about. I saw the red star too but like you said there aren't any marked, so I'm just assuming that the AFF in the key is also standing for affordable homes. I have emailed Duncan from Harworth and he's going to get in touch with Harron for some clarification. Ok. Thanks for the reply. I assumed as you did that they were the affordable ones. I'd be interested to hear what Duncan says if you wouldn't mind updating. Thanks |
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Post by Rich on Apr 26, 2016 19:21:36 GMT
Just had a better look at the plans. People moan about Harron (and yes, they have a reason to) but they can design houses and plots far better than the other two. This phase is quite spacious, with a decent amount of green space and big gardens. It's Barratt that are squeezing them in like sardines on the new phases.
Oh and kudos to them for sending EVERYONE details of the plans, not just the people who it directly affects. They didn't have to do that.
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Post by davsur on Apr 26, 2016 19:28:49 GMT
Have to agree Rich, apart from the closeness to the pub the rest of it looks good in terms of space between the houses. Harron don't seem to cram them in and at least you don't feel like you're on top of next door (except when I'm stood on my decking peering down into your garden!!!) :-)
Let's hope the build quality is good and the slow down on chucking them up. TW will be gone shortly, it's left to HH and Barratts to continue.
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Post by linds on Apr 26, 2016 19:34:01 GMT
Yeah we are, and those are the 5 homes I'm talking about. I saw the red star too but like you said there aren't any marked, so I'm just assuming that the AFF in the key is also standing for affordable homes. I have emailed Duncan from Harworth and he's going to get in touch with Harron for some clarification. Ok. Thanks for the reply. I assumed as you did that they were the affordable ones. I'd be interested to hear what Duncan says if you wouldn't mind updating. Thanks Yep I will do. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 8:02:21 GMT
One pub for 500 homes and the surrounding community it's ridiculous. We need another pub, not more houses!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 8:11:30 GMT
A play area for kids would be better like an indoor one xx
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Post by martsa on Apr 27, 2016 8:26:38 GMT
One pub for 500 homes and the surrounding community it's ridiculous. We need another pub, not more houses! There are other pubs in the surrounding area  |
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Post by Waverley101 on Apr 27, 2016 8:28:14 GMT
My initial thoughts are that the plans aren’t too bad. They’re a similar style and density to the existing phases in the area, so that tallies with the masterplan.
My main concern is the path that runs between the existing barratt and taylor wimpy houses and the proposed harron homes. At the bottom end near barratt showhome there is currently about a 1m grass verge with a hedge and trees planted alongside the path. The harron plans show this completely removed with the sides of back garden fences butted right up against the path, or service roads again butted right against the path. It’s a similar story along the entire length of the path. On the Barratt / Taylor Wimpy side there is a generous verge planted up with trees and houses set back from this. On the Harron side it will practically all be either back garden fences or a road right against the path. The only breaks will be a few front gardens that will be open to the side of it. The path will feel much more enclosed and will be far less attractive if they don’t mirror the style on the other side. There seems to be very little in the way of public amenity space. I’ll be definitely providing comments back to Harron that they should set back a bit from the path otherwise I don’t think it’s going to be very attractive.
The green space provision within this plot is also pretty weak. The masterplan shows a green space allocation in this plot, however there’s only a fairly small grassed area by one of the entrances to the plot. I don’t count the drainage ditch running alongside highfield spring as a green space (that’s usable in anyway).
Up at the pub end I agree I pitty the homes near the pub, but I guess that’s a choice for them to make. I do however think it’s a shame that the houses on the corner facing onto highfield spring are of a seemingly low aesthetic quality – they’re essentially rows of terrace houses with no front gardens and just parking bays. It’s a prominent view of the estate should ideally be laid out more attractively.
Again I don’t think the plans are too terrible, the above are my main criticisms.
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Post by nightowl on Apr 27, 2016 8:56:16 GMT
My initial thoughts are that the plans aren’t too bad. They’re a similar style and density to the existing phases in the area, so that tallies with the masterplan. My main concern is the path that runs between the existing barratt and taylor wimpy houses and the proposed harron homes. At the bottom end near barratt showhome there is currently about a 1m grass verge with a hedge and trees planted alongside the path. The harron plans show this completely removed with the sides of back garden fences butted right up against the path, or service roads again butted right against the path. It’s a similar story along the entire length of the path. On the Barratt / Taylor Wimpy side there is a generous verge planted up with trees and houses set back from this. On the Harron side it will practically all be either back garden fences or a road right against the path. The only breaks will be a few front gardens that will be open to the side of it. The path will feel much more enclosed and will be far less attractive if they don’t mirror the style on the other side. There seems to be very little in the way of public amenity space. I’ll be definitely providing comments back to Harron that they should set back a bit from the path otherwise I don’t think it’s going to be very attractive. The green space provision within this plot is also pretty weak. The masterplan shows a green space allocation in this plot, however there’s only a fairly small grassed area by one of the entrances to the plot. I don’t count the drainage ditch running alongside highfield spring as a green space (that’s usable in anyway). Up at the pub end I agree I pitty the homes near the pub, but I guess that’s a choice for them to make. I do however think it’s a shame that the houses on the corner facing onto highfield spring are of a seemingly low aesthetic quality – they’re essentially rows of terrace houses with no front gardens and just parking bays. It’s a prominent view of the estate should ideally be laid out more attractively. Again I don’t think the plans are too terrible, the above are my main criticisms. I think it's hard to tell from that plan how much gap there is between the path and the new properties, but to be fair in places it's a big gap where it has access drives next to it. In all honesty I think the house styles and density is great, a complete contrast to the last barratt phase... You could have been looking at 4 storey massive flats, crammed houses, loads semi detached and terraces tightly packed... Harrons phase 1 feels spacious and is well planned, this seems similar. I think complain for more green space and they may put a small bit in (with little benefit), but if they do they will definately increase the density on the rest of it when updating the plans and you will lose the good feel of space in my opinion. I think the plans by the path are spot on. The plans next to the pub have the issue of poor parking provision at the pub BUT that's nothing to do with Harron, it's existing and not part of the plan, and it's not their job to create parking for an unlinked business (unless they get told to by planners?). Anyone buying will be buying with open eyes as the pub is active... Personally I'd hope the winter green would consider replanning the parking area as there is room in that corner plot for a lot more spaces (but you will lose some greenery again) Overall I think they're good plans, better than I was expecting, and better than they wouldve been if it was barrats imo. |
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Post by lisas on Apr 27, 2016 9:54:50 GMT
Hi linds, I hope you don't mind me asking but what problems have you had with the affordable housing tenants? Is it something we should be aware of? I only ask because I live not too far away from there myself and want to know if I should keep my eyes open. Thanks. X
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Post by linds on Apr 27, 2016 13:24:54 GMT
Hi linds, I hope you don't mind me asking but what problems have you had with the affordable housing tenants? Is it something we should be aware of? I only ask because I live not too far away from there myself and want to know if I should keep my eyes open. Thanks. X I've sent you a PM  |
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Post by linds on Apr 27, 2016 13:25:33 GMT
Yeah we are, and those are the 5 homes I'm talking about. I saw the red star too but like you said there aren't any marked, so I'm just assuming that the AFF in the key is also standing for affordable homes. I have emailed Duncan from Harworth and he's going to get in touch with Harron for some clarification. Ok. Thanks for the reply. I assumed as you did that they were the affordable ones. I'd be interested to hear what Duncan says if you wouldn't mind updating. Thanks Hi Luke, Duncan got back to me today and has confirmed that the AFF on the map does stand for affordable homes as we guessed. He says that they will more than likely be handed over to a housing association and will be a mix of rented and shared ownership properties |
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Post by Matt on Apr 27, 2016 14:16:28 GMT
My initial thoughts are that the plans aren’t too bad. They’re a similar style and density to the existing phases in the area, so that tallies with the masterplan. My main concern is the path that runs between the existing barratt and taylor wimpy houses and the proposed harron homes. At the bottom end near barratt showhome there is currently about a 1m grass verge with a hedge and trees planted alongside the path. The harron plans show this completely removed with the sides of back garden fences butted right up against the path, or service roads again butted right against the path. It’s a similar story along the entire length of the path. On the Barratt / Taylor Wimpy side there is a generous verge planted up with trees and houses set back from this. On the Harron side it will practically all be either back garden fences or a road right against the path. The only breaks will be a few front gardens that will be open to the side of it. The path will feel much more enclosed and will be far less attractive if they don’t mirror the style on the other side. There seems to be very little in the way of public amenity space. I’ll be definitely providing comments back to Harron that they should set back a bit from the path otherwise I don’t think it’s going to be very attractive. The green space provision within this plot is also pretty weak. The masterplan shows a green space allocation in this plot, however there’s only a fairly small grassed area by one of the entrances to the plot. I don’t count the drainage ditch running alongside highfield spring as a green space (that’s usable in anyway). Up at the pub end I agree I pitty the homes near the pub, but I guess that’s a choice for them to make. I do however think it’s a shame that the houses on the corner facing onto highfield spring are of a seemingly low aesthetic quality – they’re essentially rows of terrace houses with no front gardens and just parking bays. It’s a prominent view of the estate should ideally be laid out more attractively. Again I don’t think the plans are too terrible, the above are my main criticisms. I think in some cases I can see that house fronts will face the path, so I think this will still remain fairy open in places due to the mini cul de sacs and driveways that will be created as a result. It's where the houses are sideways on to the path where you'll probably have fences up against the path, but it doesn't look as though it's all the way up. Not too bad all in all. |
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Post by Luke on Apr 27, 2016 19:46:51 GMT
Ok. Thanks for the reply. I assumed as you did that they were the affordable ones. I'd be interested to hear what Duncan says if you wouldn't mind updating. Thanks Hi Luke, Duncan got back to me today and has confirmed that the AFF on the map does stand for affordable homes as we guessed. He says that they will more than likely be handed over to a housing association and will be a mix of rented and shared ownership properties Hi Linds, thank you for getting back with the information. It will be interesting to see the plans develop. I just hope they make a good job of it. You must live just at the end of the 6 row terrace, opposite end to me so we'll both see it build up and take shape. Cheers Luke |
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