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Post by bish on Nov 29, 2014 18:46:43 GMT
I've been floor boarding my loft out over the last few evenings after work. I left a couple boxes up in the loft over night and noticed they were becoming slightly damp. I know lofts aren't the most dry of rooms in a house but they're also not meant to be that damp. Looking on the roof of our house type we have no ventilation roof tiles. A quick scout around other HH roofs and I can't see any on them either. However a quick scout on TW homes I can see ventilation roof tiles.
Have any other HH home owners noticed damp in their loft?
We have no gable end on our house type so there are no ventilation bricks either. The roof tiles go straight down to the eaves.
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Post by Rich on Nov 29, 2014 18:57:30 GMT
We had a build up of condensation on the roof lining which was clearly visible when in the loft. It was just the house drying out though and it's not visible anymore. Could it be the same? How long has your house been built?
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Post by p99ull on Nov 29, 2014 19:59:50 GMT
We were advised not to board out the lost as it has an impact on the effectiveness of the insulation. Not sure how true it is but I suppose it makes sense.
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Post by bish on Nov 29, 2014 23:40:05 GMT
We had a build up of condensation on the roof lining which was clearly visible when in the loft. It was just the house drying out though and it's not visible anymore. Could it be the same? How long has your house been built? We moved in mid October (this year), the house was completed a couple weeks before. Every loft should ideally have some form of ventilation capability. Our old house had gable ends so there was a brick either side with air holes. The TW houses around Waverley have a roof tile with ventilation holes, have a look when you walk around. HH don't seem to have either. It's not something I've thought to check on until now but now that I'm thinking of it it can be quite concerning. I'll have to check with Russ. A loft without ventilation can cause damp issues over time. |
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Post by bish on Nov 29, 2014 23:48:31 GMT
We were advised not to board out the lost as it has an impact on the effectiveness of the insulation. Not sure how true it is but I suppose it makes sense. That'll be if you either 1. ripped out two of the three layers of insulation to put the boards down on the joists or worse still 2. squashed down the three layers of insulation to put the boards down on the joists. Number 2 is particularly bad because it runs the risk of pushing pressure on to the ceiling below and the plaster board detaching. Both are bad because the house loses energy efficiency. The solution that I used to maintain energy efficiency was to buy loft legs which are essentially stilts that sit on top of the joists raising the floor level sufficiently to accommodate three layers of insulation comfortably. I've attached a picture of my loft whilst it was in progress. If you look to the top left you can make out the black squares which are the top of the stilts. It takes longer to lay the boarding down than it would ordinarily if you were doing it straight on to joists but it is worth the effort to maintain the energy efficiencies of the three layer insulation.  |
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Post by p99ull on Nov 30, 2014 1:03:13 GMT
All makes good sense! The question is... When can you come over and do mine! :-)
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Post by bish on Nov 30, 2014 1:27:15 GMT
All makes good sense! The question is... When can you come over and do mine! :-)  I'm happy to help you out get started if it's something you would like to do. I personally love a bit of DIY as I find it a de stress from the day job. Good to clear the mind. I've seen your Reg parked on the drive so you only live around the corner from me. Lift storage and space is such a great add to the home. Free the garage from so much clutter. I plan to put shelves up too in to th A pillars. I'll post A pic when I've done. |
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Post by Rich on Nov 30, 2014 8:36:18 GMT
We were advised not to board out the lost as it has an impact on the effectiveness of the insulation. Not sure how true it is but I suppose it makes sense. That'll be if you either 1. ripped out two of the three layers of insulation to put the boards down on the joists or worse still 2. squashed down the three layers of insulation to put the boards down on the joists. Number 2 is particularly bad because it runs the risk of pushing pressure on to the ceiling below and the plaster board detaching. Both are bad because the house loses energy efficiency. The solution that I used to maintain energy efficiency was to buy loft legs which are essentially stilts that sit on top of the joists raising the floor level sufficiently to accommodate three layers of insulation comfortably. I've attached a picture of my loft whilst it was in progress. If you look to the top left you can make out the black squares which are the top of the stilts. It takes longer to lay the boarding down than it would ordinarily if you were doing it straight on to joists but it is worth the effort to maintain the energy efficiencies of the three layer insulation. View AttachmentThat still puts pressure on the floor though. The guy that did ours was concerned about this and said it would be risky so he secured it to the joists so it's almost like a floating floor. He only charged me about £350 which included materials if anyone is interested in using him. |
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Post by p99ull on Nov 30, 2014 8:46:28 GMT
All makes good sense! The question is... When can you come over and do mine! :-) I'm happy to help you out get started if it's something you would like to do. I personally love a bit of DIY as I find it a de stress from the day job. Good to clear the mind. I've seen your Reg parked on the drive so you only live around the corner from me. Lift storage and space is such a great add to the home. Free the garage from so much clutter. I plan to put shelves up too in to th A pillars. I'll post A pic when I've done. Stalker!! :-) I might take you up on your offer, we have stuff in the garage at present that's getting damper by the day. However, I might also take the easy route and get the phone number from rich :-) |
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Post by bish on Nov 30, 2014 12:25:58 GMT
That'll be if you either 1. ripped out two of the three layers of insulation to put the boards down on the joists or worse still 2. squashed down the three layers of insulation to put the boards down on the joists. Number 2 is particularly bad because it runs the risk of pushing pressure on to the ceiling below and the plaster board detaching. Both are bad because the house loses energy efficiency. The solution that I used to maintain energy efficiency was to buy loft legs which are essentially stilts that sit on top of the joists raising the floor level sufficiently to accommodate three layers of insulation comfortably. I've attached a picture of my loft whilst it was in progress. If you look to the top left you can make out the black squares which are the top of the stilts. It takes longer to lay the boarding down than it would ordinarily if you were doing it straight on to joists but it is worth the effort to maintain the energy efficiencies of the three layer insulation. View AttachmentThat still puts pressure on the floor though. The guy that did ours was concerned about this and said it would be risky so he secured it to the joists so it's almost like a floating floor. He only charged me about £350 which included materials if anyone is interested in using him. Not sure what you mean Rich? The solution I used puts zero pressure on the floor and is effectively a floating floor on stilts. Comfortably allows three layers of insulation underneath and protects all energy efficiencies. |
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Post by bish on Nov 30, 2014 12:34:57 GMT
I'm happy to help you out get started if it's something you would like to do. I personally love a bit of DIY as I find it a de stress from the day job. Good to clear the mind. I've seen your Reg parked on the drive so you only live around the corner from me. Lift storage and space is such a great add to the home. Free the garage from so much clutter. I plan to put shelves up too in to th A pillars. I'll post A pic when I've done. Stalker!! :-) I might take you up on your offer, we have stuff in the garage at present that's getting damper by the day. However, I might also take the easy route and get the phone number from rich :-) Ha ha. I drive past your house every time to get to mine. I only happened to notice the reg on your car on the drive yesterday and thought that looked familiar. Then realised where from on your forum posts. That's not a bad price from Rich. I've probably spent about £150-£200 on materials. But I do the diy to clear the mind. Also having had some very poor experience of trades in our early married life I now only mostly trust my own work. I know it's done properly. Nowt like doing your own DIY. Happy to give you some help to get you started if you want it no prob. New community spirit et Al. Same for anyone reading this. |
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Post by Rich on Nov 30, 2014 16:39:33 GMT
That still puts pressure on the floor though. The guy that did ours was concerned about this and said it would be risky so he secured it to the joists so it's almost like a floating floor. He only charged me about £350 which included materials if anyone is interested in using him. Not sure what you mean Rich? The solution I used puts zero pressure on the floor and is effectively a floating floor on stilts. Comfortably allows three layers of insulation underneath and protects all energy efficiencies. Well if the stilts are connected to the joists then it's still creating downward pressure which I was told would be risky given how these houses are built. You're probably not likely to fall through but it could cause cracks in the ceiling of upstairs room. They're not designed to take much weight in the loft despite the fact most people want to use it as storage. Harron advised me against it and said you do it as your own risk. That's why ours are secured against the diagonal beams so the weight is more spread out. Oh and we have ventilation in our gable end (see photo) Attachments:
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Post by Rich on Nov 30, 2014 16:42:00 GMT
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Post by Rich on Nov 30, 2014 16:44:57 GMT
I'm happy to help you out get started if it's something you would like to do. I personally love a bit of DIY as I find it a de stress from the day job. Good to clear the mind. I've seen your Reg parked on the drive so you only live around the corner from me. Lift storage and space is such a great add to the home. Free the garage from so much clutter. I plan to put shelves up too in to th A pillars. I'll post A pic when I've done. Stalker!! :-) I might take you up on your offer, we have stuff in the garage at present that's getting damper by the day. However, I might also take the easy route and get the phone number from rich :-) Let me know if you're serious about it and I can ask the girl at work who's his wife. He has a full time job so it might be difficult to fit in. He took a day holiday to do mine so it just depends on availability. Didn't think you'd have a loft Paul with yours being 3 story? |
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Post by p99ull on Nov 30, 2014 17:55:36 GMT
Stalker!! :-) I might take you up on your offer, we have stuff in the garage at present that's getting damper by the day. However, I might also take the easy route and get the phone number from rich :-) Ha ha. I drive past your house every time to get to mine. I only happened to notice the reg on your car on the drive yesterday and thought that looked familiar. Then realised where from on your forum posts. That's not a bad price from Rich. I've probably spent about £150-£200 on materials. But I do the diy to clear the mind. Also having had some very poor experience of trades in our early married life I now only mostly trust my own work. I know it's done properly. Nowt like doing your own DIY. Happy to give you some help to get you started if you want it no prob. New community spirit et Al. Same for anyone reading this. I suppose it's a bit of a give away using my reg number :-) I just always use it for forums and user names as you can guarantee it's going to be unique. I suppose I didn't think about the fact that I would be exposing my location when I used it for this board. Not that I'm bothered anyway :-) |
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